DistantRoarOfWar: Those abs though. Katia's been working out. Or this an OC?

bluedraggy: Well, she does have hair again too, so it's at least safe to assume that this is well after her 'present day'. Noodley arms also non-noodley. Of course, it could also be just a dream.

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: @DistantRoarOfWar: Khajiit's are pretty fit already, even though she has noodle arms she still managed to repel down a rope, and jump up buildings.

DistantRoarOfWar: @ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: Nonetheless, love me some abs on a girl.

Armored-Struggle-Wagon: Good work, 'hon! ;3

Geravind: Прикона! =*_*=
Хавайся -- сейчас нобигут Радианы с радиаметрами и скажут, что ты не очень смог в мышцы. =>_<=
Размер головы(лица)/длина шеи/ширина плеч -- что-то тут не так ("само дерево жужжать не может").
Скулы (смысле сама кость) не могут заканчиваться аж позади ушей.
Личико прикольное, уфко тоже, и причёска так ничё (самый задний каскад волос, вроде, таким широким быть не может, но "жираф большоооой" -- Кхаджиту отсюда не видней).

Вообще это не Сигрид... но тварь схожего характера -- хорошо получилось отобразить.
"Ущелье" между сисей не должно так высоко отн. видимого их низа -- либо вырез одежды глубже делай, либо не растягивай так анатомию.

Молодец, который раз завидую твоим стремлениям!

Geravind: @Geravind: ...ух, прости, пожалуйста. Про "жирафа" это было к слову, а не по поводу изображённого персонажа -- так цинично таких авторов Кхаджит никогда не говнотроллит. =-_-=

Ja_Jarsha_Rovandi: Needs more Karma.

*mutters* god damn thief.

Radian: Раз уж про меня сказали придется набигать. Сам недавно закончил пачку стадиков с лицами и могу с уверенностью сказать что лица это та еще задница (don't try to translate it :P)
Bunch of critique: Итак. Шея длинная и тонкая и входить она должна в затылок а не в челюсть. Собственно челюсть заканчивается в основании уха, само ухо чуть ниже. Лицо как мне кажется слишком широкое. Глаза пожалуй самая косячная часть, они слишком широкие (хотя это можно списать на стилизацию). Если ты хотел сделать их приоткрытыми добавь сверху складки века (у правого глаза нечто подобное есть но не там). Нос в принципе правильный, но он не совсем женский. Ухо "внутри" чутка накосячено. Выше про скулы уже сказали. И ключицы сильно угловатые, особенно посередине. C-c-combo
Про губы пожалуй промолчу, они вроде нормальные и у меня самого они сейчас вызывают больше всего боли в заду.
Еще в глаза бросается разный стиль носа и уха.
Могу сделать быстрооверпайнт.

Geravind: @Radian: Ухо по высоте на нужном месте -- тут лицо чуть наклонено вперёд.

Про определение той самой неуловимой точки соединения головы с шеей при рисовании придумал целое правило.
1) При рисовании человека: первый отрезок соединяет середину ушей, второй отрезок начинается от середины носа (между кончиком и переносицей) и пересекает первый отрезок посередине; второй отрезок в точке их пересечения делится в соотношении 7/2 или 3,5/1; окончание второго отрезка и есть искомая точка.
2) При рисовании кхаджита: первый отрезок соединяет точки крепления челюсти ("ага, умник... ты хоть сам их найти можешь?"); второй отрезок начинается от кончика носа. Далее аналогично.

Кхаджит не виноват -- объяснил, как смог. Надеюсь, хоть кому-то поможет. =-_-=
Так можно легко "видеть" шею и сопоставлять с остальными размерностями, даже если она полностью закрыта в выбранном ракурсе.

Filthypaladin: DUD

forestOverlord: Sweet Katia and Hella Magnus?

SameButDifferent: The sun in the corner is that one sun baby from Teletubbies a few decades later after some very poor life choices and questionable substance usage

Vidiotdragon: That is one swood cat...

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: @Vidiotdragon:
Swood

Vidiotdragon: @ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: Exactly.

Geravind: Very egyptian muzzle for a kitty.
And nice coloring, yay!

Ja_Jarsha_Rovandi: Seems like an older Katia, somehow. Good to see her survive her tenure as Kazerad's punching dakimakura.

ThatGuyWithAKhajiitWaifu: I think it looks cute :o

Tahrey: Actually, cancel that. I've gone back and checked now...

This frame:


...is actually followed by one where the pixelation is removed following the gang boss noting that she's a reptile and therefore there's nothing really sexual about her chest. IE it's basically a bit like a human wearing an alligator-skin shirt.

So, in that case, carry on.

(However, my point still stands about the other stuff being pixelated - Kat was still censored until she applied the paint, etc... and QW PD was at least censored at first until that point was cleared up in story. So care still needs to be taken.)

((I'm not touching the bit about her apparently being "about 15", btw. You can fight amongst yourselves over that, and whether age, and particularly the difference between being adult and being underage, would make a difference between QW potentially being censored even though PD ultimately wasn't))

bluedraggy: Best definition available of what is questionable:
1 - Do mods mark it as questionable?
If true, it's questionable.
If false, it's not questionable.
Problem solved! Tadaaa!

Kazerad: @bluedraggy: one of them made a mod chatroom at some point where basically all they do is argue about nippleless breasts.

-Uzi_Man-: @bluedraggy: No, that's oligarchy. What if a mod marks something as questionable but nobody else thinks it is? It wouldn't be fair, so it's better to leave the tagging to the whole community.

The problem is that the concept of "questionable" is ambiguous as hell because everyone is going to have different understandings of it and how it applies to different pics. That's why there should be a better, clearer, more concrete definition / rule about questionability so that there's no room for ambiguity or "muh opinions".

I know that this entire topic is so utterly unimportant that it literally hurts the soul to argue about it, but if we leave it unsolved, it's going to bring up even more arguments in the long run, and nobody wants that.

Geravind: @Kazerad: It's a very important part of their duties...

*sarcasm mode enabled*
- Son, what are you doing on that weird website so long?
- Don't interrupt, mom, we're discussing acceptability of nippleless breasts on the fanartbooru.
- Oh, sorry, -- that's very important for whole humankind, carry on.
*sarcasm mode disabled*

God, save this fucking world.

Tahrey: bluedraggy: Works for me. At least then we can join forces to bitch at the mods instead of fighting with each other.

Kaz, Gera: Lol, internet. Were any of them (n)-chan mods in ages past?
Also, the internet is fuelled by stupid arguments and flamewars, they create the high pressure hot air that keeps it from collapsing in on itself. Without them it would self destruct within a matter of hours.

Were either of you around back in the days when Usenet / Newsgroups (as opposed to web-based fora) were a major part of the internet experience? Because, man, the pointless flaming that went on there... the bills that were racked up on charged-by-the-minute modem connections that you forgot to disconnect whilst writing your replies... oi vey.

Uzi_Man: I know you're probably after making things fairer and more democratic over all, but this isn't a democracy, I'm afraid. Most webforums aren't. You're always at the whim of the board owner and their appointed moderators. Deal with it.

The rules can sometimes be open to change if a great enough proportion of the userbase think they're drastically unfair and start petitioning for their alteration en masse, or there's a suggestion box that gets a continual trickle of "it might be a good idea if..." submissions from different people, or everyone just starts leaving... but, I think you're probably out on your own with the changes you wanted made.

Feel free to mooch on over to 8chan and set up a board there though ... in fact, it might even be a good thing to have a semioffical outlet for more... adult... Prequel fanarts that isn't hardlinked to this one ;) - then no-one can reasonably complain about their stuff being rejected, or slapped with an NSFW warning they think is unfair, because they can always be directed to that board instead via a PM or something.

-Uzi_Man-: Democracy isn't such a big deal in this case: just let the community as a whole do the tagging and it's all done. The only thing that needs to be re-defined is the questionability standards, so that they're more concrete and specific rather than merely "using our discretion", because that leaves it very open to interpretation. It would be helpful to establish a basis to which we can refer to when tagging pictures, unless you think that people enjoy arguing about these things, which so far has been shown to be quite the contrary.

The rules aren't "unfair", they simply could be done better in order to avoid unnecessary arguments. I'm just making the suggestion, and if people want to argue endlessly about the questionability of all the pics that are about to come in the future, then why bother, but it would be pretty fucking stupid to not prefer a one-time immediate solution that will help us put an end to these discussions.

Tahrey: That already happens anyway, anyone who's logged in can tag or untag an image. But presumably the mods are able to set/unset and lock certain tags, and warn/ban anyone who's abusing it.

But yeah, straight rules would be good. Can someone bring up the illustrated posting guide (and maybe the tagging one) for us again, to show whether or not they already exist?

Adroma: Don't mind me just going hunting shirtless.

Tahrey: #justamazonthings

RoninSmall: so, the figure is ready and partly sawn on details for ease molding. I look forward to the caster, so he made copies of the figures in the resin-cast. Paladin for scale. Katia performed in near of a standard 28 mm format

Man_Of_Mer: IS THIS THE FACE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR? Well, more like cruel creator, but still!

VashTheStampede: He did make this comic for us and not ask much.

Bob: HARK! Thine creator has appeared before us humble lowly servants!

What is thy will almighty kaz?

(It better not be to make another of those fancy margaritas again, just making them questions my faith)

SirArthurIV: Kaz is a handsome guy. I think I might have a crush.

RoninSmall: I decided to correct the mistakes of the old sketch. I used a sheet larger than that to see them. I will be glad to criticism, as the last time

PS: do not ask what a plot on the sketch, I do not know.

unknown_victor: The head seems to small but everything else looks fine.

Geravind: Голову чуть увеличь и на место прицепи (выше, левее -- всегда сквозь любые преграды сверяй точку крепления головы к позвоночнику).
Левая кисть мелкая, талия излишне удлиннена (синдром змеи), ляхи каплю толстые, но с такой длиной торса это никто не заметил.
Возле левого бедра намёк на хвост нарисуй шо ле.

RoninSmall: @Geravind: вот тебя я и ждал!

Агась-агась, значта я ничего не упустил что сам увидел. Что касается головы-я тупо представить не могу как она там идет и крепиться, хотя это не мешает мне этот момент лепить. Вот так вот вышло. В любом случае придется посидеть часик другой пообрисовывать
А слегка толстоватые ляхи я люблю, это я уже нарочно :D
Ой, а я хвост забыл

Стыдно как-то скетчи заливать, жалко кроме набора карандашей и ластика ничего круче нет в наличии. Я к чему: все безнадежно и мне стоит бросить затею? Не, ну если что, то зачем мне конкретно недоделками гадюшить? Я жеж в это полез только потому, что наброском удобно сделать будущий эскиз лепной фигуры, а мне приходиться все на ходу додумывать, потому что я тупо нарисовать не способен

Radian: Эта голова оказывает разрушительное воздействие на все остальное тело ._. Выше правильно сказали, от себя добавлю что мускулатуру плеча\руки неправильно изобразил и грудная клетка "выпуклая" с левой (от нас) стороны.
П.С. Хорошие, годные ляхи :Р

Бросать не стоит. Я не знаю как долго и усердно ты этим занимаешься, но для хорошего прогресса нужно время. А для эскизов советую набыбать пачку фоток с няшными голыми азиаточками и рисовать с них. Я не уверен но попробуй загуглить "Hyper Angle", у меня так архив назывался. Внутри 300 фоточек в разных позах и с разных ракурсов.

Geravind: @RoninSmall: "вот тебя я и ждал!" Кхаджит не виноват! Кхаджит пришёл -- так и было.
Бросать не получится -- ч-з n времени придёт твоя совесть и, шатая тебе мозг, будет кричать "сволочь, уже полгода прошло! рисуй ещё что-нибудь годное -- ты самый ленивый юзер этого ресурса... вон, даже криволапый Гера мышкой в редакторе водит". Как-то так.
Заметил одну неизменную особенность: качество арта напрямую зависит от затраченного времени/усилий/скила (но эти ползунки у каждого свои). Когда первый раз кажется "ой, ну всё, уже надоело это пилить, пора выкладывать", на самом деле лучше отложить, отдохнуть, потом оценить ещё раз, нужное допилить.

Никогда бы не подумал, что девушка так сильно нужна для правильного рисования артов... "Девушка для артов", Карл!

RoninSmall: @Radian: никогда бы не подумал что азиатки так полезны творчеству. Хех, я на этот случай специально купил у какого-то гайза фигурку тни, которую успешно потерял. Кажется, это была Каллидус Ассасин

@Geravind: девушка для артов? Лично у меня есть инженер для черчения, который мне за пластиковые фигурки ворует методички по черчению

damrok4321: I would play :P

notabigthreat: ASOTIL should also replace the power's exhaustion, so that's a pseudo Coldarra Drake. Might not hypothetically become a common choice in deck building, though the combos possible are powerful. Gharug is insane value with enough luck, and very probably overpowered. At least that's one more occasion to burn your Reno. The other two cards, especially Sigrid, seem hard to rate reliably. I believe them to be strong.

Vidiotdragon: Nerd Alert: I have to agree that ASTOIL doesn't work becuase inspire requires you to use the ability power... so if its already fire blast, it becomes fire blast again? I kind of feel like he should do something close to Sap since you know.. Arrest.

As for Gro-Upp, I think he should have immunity to hero powers/targeted spells and maybe a "draw a luck card" or something like that. I'm not sure where the weapon fits in. Sigrid should probably read "4 or less Attack" as that's what cards of similar fashion say.

Think like a Witchhunter costs a bit too much considering the closest card to it is only 3 for 2 cards.

Okay I'm done! :P

notabigthreat: 1) It becomes a fresh Fireblast.
2) Right, Gharug isn't directly derived from the comic. Though maybe it's something with throwing swords through walls?
3) Health, it's much easier to synergize with, especially for mages. An instant-damage-dealing card (abundant) plus Sigrid make a great one turn combo.
4) Think... really should not cost below 5. Compare it to Nourish: three card draw with an additional advantage. That is, an information gain.

Tahrey: Yeah, I was wondering about the "destroy weapon" bit. Does any part of the game rely on modfiable chance rolls or the like?

Asotil could be one of those cards that is either a great help (if you have an attack that is inferior to fireblast and/or you need a recharge - though actually the latter would be a non-canon thing), or no use at all (if you already have that or a better attack, and are fully charged).

Like, you might not deliberately add him to an opening hand, but there's nothing to say he wouldn't be part of the random-draw pile, and then appear either just as you need him (eg after your opponent has done something to nerf your main attack), or exactly when he's not needed (just as you've built up to maximum asskicking strength independently of him) and ends up just sticking around for ages until you can dump the card with little/no cost.

Streetwind: @notabigthreat -

The value of Nourish as a 3 card-draw for 5 mana does not simply come from placing three cards into your hand. For starters, there is a difference between putting cards into your hand, and actually drawing them from your deck. Both give you cards to play, but only the act of drawing is considered acceleration (putting your key combo into your hand faster). Additionally, Nourish can also be played as a ramp, and the rule of the thumb is that combining multiple cards into a single card makes their effects worth more.

The effect on Think Like A Witchhunter is interesting though. It can give you your opponent's key cards, but it can also give you dead weight. Mind Vision generally works because you cast it on turn 1, right after the mulligan, where your opponent fished for good cards. A 5-mana cardsteal (not draw) meanwhile is slow as molasses. Thoughsteal can be played when the priest would usually pass, in turn 2 or 3, but by turn 5 the endgame is approaching and you need to be able to answer your opponent reliably unless you want to surrender the board. Perhaps if you have Lightbomb on hand already for turn 6, you would play this and hope your opponent overextends right into your impending boardclear... Otherwise you're at your opponent's mercy to give you time to cast it.

Yeah, very intriduing. I can't really rate it off hand.

As for the other cards, Gharug is okay, I guess... if you manage to get him out together with, say, an Ogre Warmaul. Four cards drawn for 3 extra mana, that weighs up his stat deficiency. And control warriors love card draw. Death's Bite is also a possible sacrifice, since you play Death's Bite partly for its own deathrattle in the first place.

Sigrid is quite decent. Shadow Madness sees play at 4 mana, and this card gives you a 4-2 body on top of it, while the mage can actively influence what targets are eligible. Also compare Cabal Shadowpriest, which also sees active play at 6 mana, 4/5, permanent steal with limited ability to influence the eligibility (via Shrinkmeister) but a narrower target field overall. Sigrid's not the stongest legendary in the game, but likely the strongest card among these four.

ASOTIL is... really strange. The effect may be too weird and synergize too little with other Paladin cards to be playable. And compared to Silver Hand Regent, he struggles to keep up. You'd have to push your hero power button at least twice every turn to make him worth having, which makes him an endgame card... that has three health and will be cleared almost instantly. And Silver Hand Regent isn't even played in Constructed, despite heavy synergy with things like Quartermaster and Muster For Battle. Overall, likely the weakest card among these four.

(And honestly, my headcanon card effect for ASOTIL would be "Katia Managan is immune", combined with a Katia Managan card that has a nice effect and/or stats but a Battlecry to deal heavy damage to herself, a bit like a less fortunate Injured Blademaster. =P That makes ASOTIL into Katia's personal protector, much like he is in the story, and requires opponents to get through him first... as well as greatly increasing Katia's own value if you summon her while he is on the board already, as that blocks the Battlecry.)

notabigthreat: @Streetwind: Your text of words is amazing and I agree up to the last paragraph. Katia is the "you" throughout most of the story, so she would not make a good minion.

Tahrey: So we're not taking the role of an independent, all-controlling overlord that isn't directly part of the story?

Ja_Jarsha_Rovandi: @Vidiotdragon: Maybe make ASOTIL a spell card.
"Arrest* one enemy creature.
*arresting a creature removes it from the battlefield and places it in your hand, it can be played for 0 mana and returns to your opponents side"

Adroma: Sorry not sorry

Skoon: Illuminati

Tahrey: What about all those pictures where she has four? Creepy as F, man.

TemporaryFace: @Tahrey: That just means she's capable of changing the number of fingers on her hand, indicating she's some kind of horrible shapeshifting monster.

SameButDifferent: @TemporaryFace Katia isn't tormented by the shapeshifting King, she IS the King. My GOD.

notabigthreat: Don't forget about the yellow voice!

Grape: @notabigthreat: Yellow Voice and Cheese Dragon seem to be the only things NOT tormenting Katia in her dreams.